Category: Photographs

May 4th 1871 was a big day in my family history. James Jones married Julia Anne Moore at St. Faith’s Church in Havant, Hampshire.

Neither bride nor groom were my direct ancestors, but later that same year, James’s brother Charles would marry Julia’s sister Mary Jane. These were my great great grandparents, so many of the wedding guests would have been my blood relatives.

More to the point, back in 1971 (celebrating the centenary?!), my great aunt Olga had some prints made up from a glass slide she had found, meaning I have this rather amazing photograph:

Olga’s notes say this was taken on the croquet lawn of Jessamine House, North Street, Havant (the Moore house, which Olga would have known well, and which was sadly demolished some time in the 1950s and was on the site of what is now the Meridian Shopping complex).

Of course, I’m now on a mission to identify all the people! There are four people I’m 100% certain of, and another two who I’m pretty sure of.  As for the remaining 13 figures, I have no proof but lots of credible candidates. By looking at which close relatives were alive at the time, it’s possible to come up with a group of 15-20 or so people from whom these 13 are probably taken.

Sadly, quite a few close relatives had died in the 10 years before this was taken. The groom’s mother, Ann Maria Jones (nee Heighington) died in Ludlow in 1862, and that same year, the bride’s half-brother Albert had died in Havant aged just 25. The bride’s father, James Moore, had died in 1865, followed just two months later by her half-sister Elizabeth.

Let’s have a look at that photo again:

The four definite identifications I can make are the bride and groom and their brother and sister (who will be bride and groom 6 months later):

11. James Jones, aged 38 or 39
12. Julia Anne Jones (nee Moore), aged 22
5. Charles Richard Jones, aged 42 or 43
8. Mary Jane Moore, aged 20

The next two are highly probable:
6. This is almost certainly the groom’s father, Richard Jones, a publisher and bookseller from Ludlow. He would have been 74, having been born in 1797
10. This is almost certainly Julia Moore (nee Blackburn), aged 60

From here on out, things get highly speculative! Obviously some of these people might not have been family at all. However, some of the following guesses are likely to be right, and many may eventually be verifiable if other photographs of these people emerge.  OK, it’s not that likely, but it’s possible!

Some rationalising:

Jones

• As of 1871, the groom had four surviving siblings, all brothers.  I think these four brothers are the younger men on the left of the picture (the elder man being their father).
• Of these brothers, Charles Richard Jones, has been identified beyond doubt as 5.
• Younger brother Henry Jones (33) was not married, and is most likely number 9.
• Other brothers Thomas Richard Jones and Whitmore Jones were both married, and with their wives probably make up the two couples who are 1, 2, 3 and 4.
• Assuming I’ve identified him correctly, widowed father Richard Jones has an older woman next to him. Interestingly, the mother of son Thomas R. Jones’s wife is resident in Richard Jones’s house in Ludlow in the 1871 census (one month earlier). This leads me to speculate that 7. is this person, Mary Ann Knight (nee Binsted). Adding to the connection, Mary Ann Knight is the sister-in-law of the bride’s father’s first wife (she was married to George, the brother of James Moore’s first wife, Ann Knight)

Moore

• If the left hand is the Jones side (excepting Mary Jane, who is seated next to her betrothed), it follows that the right hand side might be the Moore side.
• There are two younger couples (?), an older couple and the seated man, who looks like a clergyman.
• Julia Ann had only two surviving siblings: the aforementioned Mary Jane, and Laura Smithers (nee Moore, 32), who was married to William Henry Smithers (aged about 31). Laura and William could be 16 and 17
• OK – I’m now out of parents, siblings and their spouses. Next up, I thought perhaps other close relatives who either live near Hampshire or have associations with the area. If 14. is the clergyman, that leaves two couples to find.
• The older couple could be Mary Luning nee Blackburn (57) and her husband Charles (65). Mary had previously lived with her uncle just up the road in Emsworth.
• Or perhaps more likely candidates are Edward Moore and his wife Sarah (nee Knight). Both were born around Havant, and Sarah is the sister of James Moore’s first wife Ann. The couple lived in Islington, London in 1871.
• This leaves the younger couple.  They could be the bride’s first cousin Julia Ellen Taylor née Luning b. 1844 (26) and husband John Jasper Taylor b.1837 (34)
• Or other first cousins Elizabeth Hulbert b. 1838 (31) and husband John Burnett Hulbert b. 1835 (36).

There are some sad times ahead for these people.  After returning to China with James, Julia had two children, but sadly died not long after her second daughter was born.  James then married Jane Cable, and bizarrely, his brother-in-law William Smithers later married Jane’s sister Georgina, having been widowed in 1884.

So here’s my speculative key to this photo as it stands.  If anyone reading this has any photographic evidence to confirm or contradict this, or any other opinions, please don’t hesitate to get in touch!

Number	Definitely this person	Could be this person	Age of the person I think/know it is
1		Maria Anna Jones (whitmore’s wife)	24
2		Richard Thomas Jones	35
3		Whitmore Jones	37
4		Mary Frances Jones (Richard Thomas’s wife)	37
5	Charles Richard Jones		43
6	Richard Jones		74
7		Mary Ann Knight	68
8	Mary Ann Moore		60
9		Henry Jones	33
10	Julia Moore		20
11	James Jones		39
12	Julia Anne Moore		22
13		John jasper taylor	33
14		The vicar [or uncle George Moore was a Wesleyan minister]
15		Ellen Taylor née Luning	27
16		Henry William Smithers	31
17		Laura Moore	32
18		Sarah Moore nee Knight	51
19		Edward Moore	53